Right, Lady J, because your “white-washing” comment wasn’t racially charged at all. Until all sides of the race war cease with the hypocrisy, it’s always going to be pot meet kettle. While I do not agree with Sandra’s comment, I will uphold her right to voice her opinion, same as everyone else here. The show hinted and then painted in broad strokes, a husband-wife team and how that vibe would play between the developing relationship between the messengers. Then, in a drawn-out painful season, they undermined all of the groundwork they established in season 1, made Catriona the ‘fall guy’, and are now trying to re-create the show. I can understand why some fans are upset.

That aside, in my humble opinion, the show has hit a slump and will continue to slide. The producers took a popular myth, decided to put a diverse spin on it, then added a slew of history on top of that. It’s a formula similar to ABC’s ‘Forever’, which drew me in and kept me entertained, the same with season 1 of ‘Sleepy Hollow’. Now, I’m limping along with the rest and hoping the show can recover. The idea isn’t the problem. The writing, while at times clichéd, isn’t the over-whelming problem either. It’s the repeated formula of a show that induces intellect. Unfortunately, the majority of American television watchers wish to be mindlessly entertained and loathe anything that makes them think. The show is becoming more high brow and while someone like myself immensely enjoys that, it turns the average viewer off. Unfortunately, if it continues in that vein, while it will have a cult following among like-minded individuals, it will go the same route as all the other shows that have previously followed that formula.

And Sandra, I’m black and I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you’re not black, possibly even white. You know, comments like these,
“I don’t see anything but Crane and black faces…I never expected that it would need to be a completely black show in order for this group to invest. They have zeroed in on poor Katia as the reason for their discontent, because she is the only white female…Distain on one character based on her color is not diversity, it’s entitlement and I’m seeing it pushed down the throats of some very nice guys who just want to tell the story…If the color of Crane’s wife bothers you, then maybe BET is where you belong.”
are so out of place and denigrating that this indicates maybe challenges on your end to see from others’ points of view.

You make it seem as if ppl who have issues with Katrina are all black, when some of the most ardent Ichabbie shippers are not black. Many, many, MANY TV critics, who are not black, have a problem with Katrina and her dead weight screen time. I get it, she’s your fav and you did admit that the writers haven’t stuck by her, but to write off other ppl’s opinions as disgruntled, mostly blacks who just want Abbie to get Katrina’s man is patronising, idiotic and completely out of touch with what MANY have identified as the drag for this season.

Sleepy Hollow’s 1st attracted a wide demographic because of, wait for it, diverse characters. Is it too much to ask that it continue in the second, while still expanding Katrina’s role in TeamApocalypse? Frankly, minor characters (of race and screen time) have not been handled well in Sleepy’s world, even from the halcyon days of S1. Remember Reverend Knapp? Luke? Macey and Cynthia? Heck, even Corbin? Remember waaaaayyyy back to the Pilot when Corbin and Knapp acknowledged each other in the diner? It would have been very interesting to have the Team discover their allegiance, writings, demon-defeating manuals….whatever…. or show flashbacks with them fighting evil. Joe Corbin’s introduction into the team would have been great; instead we get Hawley

As a Buffy/Whedon fanatic, I believe in the value of an Apocalypse. Buffy had to avert one just about every season. It doesn’t have to be the weekly focus, but I want some End of Days.

Have you lost your mind? This show was NOT about Crane’s love for his family, this show was about the witnesses fighting the apocalypse. They’ve zeroed in on poor Katrina because they put her in the center of the entire mythology trying to make her relevant. Face it the show worked with Beharie as the co lead. One damn show that isn’t centered around a white woman and this is what you get. white women who have had every incarnation of a heroine and one woman a black woman gets this opportunity and you have a fit. The show worked, without making Katrina the center, now they have and it sucks. Sorry people aren’t enamored with that character. Why should they be? Disdain for one character because of her color? God Katrina fans are truly disturbed.

Sandra, you had the nerve to claim reverse racism as the reason why the majority of fans dislike the character of Katrina when you’re the biggest racist trolling fansites to spew your hatred of Abbie/Nicole and black people (especially women) in general. Everything about your comment above typifies your bigoted, myopic and entitled view on race. I find it hard to believe you actually watch the show if you believe there was ever a time Ichabod was the lone white character on the show. Even in season 1 when the show was diverse, there was Sheriff Corbin, Rev Knapp, Abraham van Brunt, Katrina, Devon Jones, the Masons, Henry Parish and a host of side characters, villains and those that appeared in the colonial flashbacks that were all white.

This show was advertised as a ‘diverse show’ in the first season (which it lived up to), so it isn’t unreasonable for fans to have expected this to carry over into season 2. This didn’t happen hence the uproar. Plus the use of harmful tropes such as ‘the black best friend/sidekick,’ ‘the mammy,’ and the ‘strong independent black woman,’ that the show did a good job of straying away from in its inception. It wouldn’t have been so glaring if characters that fans care about and were invested in were given equal screen time, character development and their stories told instead of being pushed aside for these new characters. Added to that was their boring storylines and the one-dimensionality.

When 98% of the people on television are white, why is it such a tall order to want representation and to see characters like oneself in genre shows when typically non-white people are woefully unrepresented on these shows? If Sleepy Hollow is indeed cancelled, you have many shows at your disposal to replace it with. That isn’t the case for black genre fans, which is why this show was unique and so special to us.

Lastly, to reduce this all to shipping is reductive and an obvious attempt to derail the conversation. Sleepy Hollow lost its way due to bad writing, lack of continuity and world building, upending the show’s mythology, introducing useless characters and not developing the existing ones, and most importantly deviating from a winning formula that worked: the two Witnesses [Abbie AND Ichabod] together stopping the apocalypse.

I just want this show to have the chance to live up to the promise of the first season.

Sandra, “I don’t see anything but Crane and black faces” sounds pretty racist to me.

I spoke about characters of color and named them, talked about who they are and their story proportions. Same with white characters and actors like John Noble.

The phrasing “black faces” indicates that you don’t see individual characters, but a sea of blackness, which repulses you. I mentioned both Luke and Reyes by name, who are both Hispanic characters, not black, hence characters of color.

I don’t know about about this faction you’re talking about, but I’m guessing from your distaste with black faces and your mention of BET that they are probably black.

This vision you talk about doesn’t seem to be the writers vision. The writing this season has dismantled Crane’s marriage and made Katrina out to be untrust-worthy in a variety of ways. From siding with the Horseman to covering up the death of Crane’s betrothed, nothing the writers have done indicates that they meant to adhere to this vision you have of Katrina and Ichabod.

You know, I had heard that Katrina fans were pretty racist, but I doubted it until I read your reply.

Wow. I’m just stunned that people like you exist. You are really giving the very few fans of the Katrina character a bad name.

Hi Sandra,

Even though, I’m critical of Katrina, I’m glad you’re here to offer another view. I think Katrina is woefully underdeveloped and was set up for failure. In the first season, her purpose was to be rescued. Now that she’s out of Purgatory, we haven’t seen this powerful witch we were promised. The writers have presented her as a liar and fickle on top of it. I have no idea why they came up with the dalliance with Abraham. Don’t Ichatrina fans find that annoying? I think that Team Katrina should be shaking their fists at the writers (or meddling execs) too. Even though Team Ichabbie and Team Ichatrina are at odds, we are united in hoping the show gets a third season.

I think a large group would like to think this is true. However, watching the show, I don’t see anything but Crane and black faces. I know it was advertised as a diverse show. And I expected that characters would be black and white. I never expected that it would need to be a completely black show in order for this group to invest. They have zeroed in on poor Katia as the reason for their discontent, because she is the only white female on the show and they think that the main character (Crane) should be available for their hero, (Abbie). I fell like the old lady on the tv commercial saying, “That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works”. The vision was to have Crane and his wife as part of the team and frankly, I’d like to see that become a reality. Why are we so stalled on this? Distain on one character based on her color is not diversity, it’s entitlement and I’m seeing it pushed down the throats of some very nice guys who just want to tell the story. Abbie is our POV, the Cranes and their family are a main part of the story and I got that from season one. If the color of Crane’s wife bothers you, then maybe BET is where you belong.